From RWilson Fri Nov 26 13:13:24 1993 Path: doc.ic.ac.uk!uknet!acorn!not-for-mail From: RWilson Newsgroups: comp.sys.acorn Subject: Replay/ARMovie corrections Date: 26 Nov 1993 11:03:33 -0000 Organization: "Acorn Computers Ltd, Cambridge, England" Lines: 59 Sender: rwilson@acorn.co.uk Message-ID: <2d4nq5$51q@acorn.acorn.co.uk> NNTP-Posting-Host: acorn.acorn.co.uk Recently Adam Curtin (hi, Adam) {adam@ifeng.demon.co.uk} said: > I don't know where you got the bit about sending the video to Eidos to be > compressed - you just plug your VCR into Compressor and click the record > button ... the compression's 25fps in real-time. Perhaps we lent nott.ac.uk > an Optima but not a compressor back in the dim distant past, or maybe you're > thinking of Acorn's Moving Lines compression for Replay, where you have to > take your video to specially appointed compression centres - because Moving > Lines compression takes several seconds per frame (what is it now Roger? 5s? > 30s?) and requires an Arc hooked up to a tape machine with transport control > so it can make the necessary twelve zillion passes through the tape. which I feel puts a very unfair light on the current state of making Replay files, even though it was true two years ago. Both Irlam and Computer Concepts sell hardware which records direct to disc 16 bit per pixel live video with stereo sound at (say) 160x128 12.5fps (CC's hardware is more flexible than Irlam's which is fixed at this size) with optional hardware antialiasing as the video is scaled from the original capture. This makes an ARMovie file which can immediately be replayed, but is kind of large (between 6 bits per pixel and 10 bits per pixel depending on how you set the capture options). Both companies supply the Acorn designed 'MovingLines' compressor which can be as quick as 3-4 seconds per frame (33MHz ARM3, compressor in 'quality' state) or as slow as 10-30 seconds per frame (slow CPU, compressor in CD-ROM bandwidth limited state). The movie can be taken down to around 3 bits per pixel without noticeable loss and to between 1.5-2.5 with what I'd call 'acceptable degradation' (you KNOW its compressed, but it doesn't detract >from the sequence's impact). Sequences on the Acorn VideoClip collection 1 CD-ROM have, of course, been compressed for CD-ROM bandwidth. Uniqueway still provide the capability to do this for you - they have higher quality capture systems and gallons of video processing hardware - if you want something different. Replay decompression can be on any machine with more than 1.4M (or thereabouts) free. The decompressor (!ARMovie directory) is supplied by Acorn and is capable of painting onto 1-24bpp screen depths and of following shaped output (e.g. the movie is decompressed onto a rotating 3d model of an acorn). Decompression is more efficient than compression or capture: the movies at Acorn World were 320x200 pixels at 15fps, decompressed with 2:1 scaling. On 16 and 24 bpp displays, bilinear interpolation is used to improve the quality of the 2:1 scaling. Apart from device drivers that hog the CPU (no names, no packdrill), decompression works from any storage media that has sufficient bandwidth: CD-ROM, IDE, SCSI, NFS, AUN Ethernet... ARM2 machines (A3000, A3010) can handle 12.5 fps (A3000 in mode 15, A3010 in mode 28). ARM3 machines can handle 25 fps (8MHz MEMC in mode 15, 12MHz MEMC in mode 28). Replay sound is available in mono/stereo, 4 bit ADPCM, 8 bit signed linear, 8 bit unsigned linear, 8 bit VIDC exponential format, 16 bi linear. Movies can have any number of sound tracks, the first one being played by default. Demos available, but not over the Internet: a 1 minute compressed movie can be 7-15 MBytes (depending on picture size, frame rate and quality). --Roger